Showing posts with label Bible Validity. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bible Validity. Show all posts

Sunday, February 3, 2013

Should Catholics Read Protestant Bibles?

Jesus and the New Testament writers quoted from the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation of the Old Testament.

All scholars and Protestants agree that this translation includes the 7 books that Protestants exclude in their Bible.

If the Septuagint is good enough for Jesus and the New Testament writers, it is good enough for me.

At about the 1:28 minute mark Dr. Scott Hahn gives simple gems of info and advice:



http://www.catholic.com/video/should-catholics-read-protestant-bibles-0

Source:
http://www.catholic.com/video/should-catholics-read-protestant-bibles#.UHEdPBhg9_k


Monday, October 25, 2010

Sola Scriptura - Where is that in the Bible?

Steve Ray shared a typical scenario on his Face Book wall and @ his blog. I have included some of the best comments. :-)

Protestants often accuse Catholics of making up doctrines or tradition. They often press their point by asking "Where do you find that in the Bible?"
A good answer, of course, is to respond, "Where do you find in the Bible, that you have to find everything in the Bible?"
The idea everything has to be found in the Bible is itself an unbiblical tradition!
 
 
The interesting comments that followed:
 
SOLA SCRIPTURA
~~I've heard some Protestants use Timothy 3:16-17 as a basis for Sola Scriptura.
 
~~Here's what Timothy 3:16-17 exactly says (we must be aware of the rephrasing other religions are fond of doing) 
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." 
--> It doesn't state that you have to find everything in the Bible ;-D
 
~~The key word in that verse is "useful" as useful does not imply "sufficient" or ALL that is needed.
 
~~When Timothy wrote that, the only Scripture they had was the OT. Besides their writings, it was all word of mouth/tradition.
 
~~And remember 1 Timothy 3:15 -- "But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth."

~~Let us not forget 2 Thessalonians 2:15 which tells us: 
"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." 
This is our justification for maintaining Holy Tradition... So that when our Holy Traditions are challenged... this is what we can use to defend them! Of course this only works for those Holy Traditions that were handed down to us from the Holy Apostles through the Church Fathers... 
 
~~God intended for the whole truth! even in the Gospel of John we are taught that Christ said and did more than what is written so does that mean we should ignore that because its irrelevant.. but its ...still the life of Christ!
 
~~ Ephesians 3... that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known...Through. The. Church.


WHERE DID THE BIBLE COME FROM?
~~The bible itself is a product of Tradition.
 
~~A nice man came to our door & left a bible & business card with two of my kids. It was NIV from a local Baptist church. I returned it, politely, the next day (wearing a Catholic-to-the-Max t-shirt). 
I told them I wanted to bring this back, as it was missing 7 books, the last 2 chapters of Daniel, and letters in Esther. They stared at me like I lost my last marbles. So I helped them out. I said, "I like the Douay-Rheims myself." 
They just kept staring at me. Never pass on the chance to help your Christian brothers & sisters.
 
~~Where did the protestants get the Bible? Without the Catholic Church there would be no Bible. 
 
~~It's like some protestants think the Bible fell from the sky during the Reformation. 
~~Surprisingly - This isn't too far from the truth - I asked the question once to some co-workers "Where did THIS BOOK come from," as I was holding a bible -- like -- the physical book. The answer was "God gave it to us."
I proceeded to explain nicea, Jerome, the whole lot.  It didnt phase them. The answer just became more fortified, "God inspired scripture . . . . God gave it to us."
 
~~I have had protestants ask why we added books to the Bible.
 
~~The Church brought the bible to the world, so we added nothing. Correct them and tell them we compiled it, and also ask them when would we have added them? The 2nd century, the 5th, the 9th? When?  :-) 
 

Friday, January 8, 2010

Is the Bible an Accurate Text?

Sir Frederic G. Kenyon, in The Story of the Bible, notes that
"For all the works of classical antiquity we have to depend on manuscripts written long after their original composition. The author who is the best case in this respect is Virgil, yet the earliest manuscript of Virgil that we now possess was written some 350 years after his death. For all other classical writers, the interval between the date of the author and the earliest extant manuscript of his works is much greater. For Livy it is about 500 years, for Horace 900, for most of Plato 1,300, for Euripides 1,600."
Yet no one seriously disputes that we have accurate copies of the works of these writers. However, in the case of the New Testament we have parts of manuscripts dating from the first and early second centuries, only a few decades after the works were penned.

Not only are the biblical manuscripts that we have older than those for classical authors, we have, in sheer numbers, far more manuscripts from which to work. Some are whole books of the Bible, others fragments of just a few words, but there are literally thousands of manuscripts in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Coptic, Syriac, and other languages. This means that we can be sure we have an authentic text, and we can work from it with confidence.



The authority of the Bible rests on the authority of the Catholic Church. Either the Catholic Church had the authority to do this or they didn’t. We can see through history and reason that they did have this authority. Therefore, I believe the Bible is the Inspired Word of God.
So the only rational reason we can believe that the Bible is the Inspired Word of God is essentially because the Catholic Church has revealed that to us by their authority given to it by Christ. And if we trust the Catholic Church to determine its canon, perhaps we should also trust it to interpret it for us. After all, that’s why God gave us a Church with the authority to do such things.
“I would not believe in the Gospels were it not for the authority of the Catholic Church” – St. Augustine
. . . . more about this @ Fallible Blogma, an absolutely wonderful resource on the internet!




SOURCES: 
The content in blue is quoted in full from Catholic Answers  in the article entitled, "Proving Inspiration"
The last paragraph is quoted from, Why Should We Believe in the Bible @ Fallible Blogma. 
The link provided for more information about St Augustine leads back to Villanova University

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Links of interest for more Augustinian detail:
arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) History of the Order
arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Augustine Rule
arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Saints of the Order 
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. Augustine
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. Clare of Montefalco
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. John of Sahagun
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. John Stone
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. Nicholas
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. Rita of Cascia
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes)St. Thomas of Villanova
arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Famous Augustinians
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Luis deLeon
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Martin Luther
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Gregor Mendel
     arrowBullet.jpg (4876 bytes) Andres Urdaneta

Note: Why Should We Believe in the Bible is scheduled to be re-posted (in full) for reference @ A Catholic Notebook in the near future.
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